Educational Experience – Duplicate Courses

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  • #180468
    Anonymous
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    Has anyone on here ever been pinged by their state board for submitting transcripts with “duplicate courses”? If so, how close of a match were they? I am trying to figure out how picky/strict state boards are about that.

    I am looking at testing out of a couple entry level business courses (Introduction to Business and Principles of Supervision). I have never taken a general business course, but I have seen the material at different times throughout my college experience. I have taken Management Fundamentals, which one might consider a duplicate for Principles of Supervision, but it was at a different level (2000 vs 3000) and may cover somewhat different material. I know that worst case scenario is my application is temporarily rejected and I am out a couple hundred bucks for testing fees, but I would prefer not to go through that hassle if anyone has any solid answers.

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  • #445113
    tough_kitty
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    I think you'll get the most solid answer from your state board of accountancy. Just email or call them.

    I emailed them in CA about a few issues I had and they responded within a few days. I was impressed!

    FAR: 81 (May 2013)
    BEC: 81 (July 2013)
    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
    California CPA since 1/30/14

    #445252
    tough_kitty
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    I think you'll get the most solid answer from your state board of accountancy. Just email or call them.

    I emailed them in CA about a few issues I had and they responded within a few days. I was impressed!

    FAR: 81 (May 2013)
    BEC: 81 (July 2013)
    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
    California CPA since 1/30/14

    #445115
    Anonymous
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    I took the CLEP Princ of Management and the DSST Princ of Supervision, and actually used the same book to study for both, but my school and my state board treated them as different classes. I would say that the designation used by the school you transfer the credits into will matter more than the state board's view on them. (I'm assuming you're referencing DSST and CLEP since the titles match. 😉 ) My school counted Supervision and Management as being different courses, so when my state board got my transcript, it showed two different transfer-equivalent course codes for them (say MGMT-2001 and MGMT-3001 or something, though I don't remember the exact codes), so they saw them as different material.

    Another test that is very similar to those two is Organizational Behavior – don't quote me on it, but I want to say that one counts as upper-level, but is still essentially the same material. So, if you decide Supervision might be too close a call, it would be another option…or if you wanted to do Supervision and Org Behavior instead of studying new material for Intro to Bus. Org Behavior is pretty much just another regurgitation of Supervision and Management, if I remember right.

    #445254
    Anonymous
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    I took the CLEP Princ of Management and the DSST Princ of Supervision, and actually used the same book to study for both, but my school and my state board treated them as different classes. I would say that the designation used by the school you transfer the credits into will matter more than the state board's view on them. (I'm assuming you're referencing DSST and CLEP since the titles match. 😉 ) My school counted Supervision and Management as being different courses, so when my state board got my transcript, it showed two different transfer-equivalent course codes for them (say MGMT-2001 and MGMT-3001 or something, though I don't remember the exact codes), so they saw them as different material.

    Another test that is very similar to those two is Organizational Behavior – don't quote me on it, but I want to say that one counts as upper-level, but is still essentially the same material. So, if you decide Supervision might be too close a call, it would be another option…or if you wanted to do Supervision and Org Behavior instead of studying new material for Intro to Bus. Org Behavior is pretty much just another regurgitation of Supervision and Management, if I remember right.

    #445117
    Anonymous
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    Lilla, I am talking about the DSST exam. However, I did not take the CLEP course for Intro to Management, I took Management Fundamentals as an undergrad student. It sounds like they are pretty lenient. I wonder if its dependent on the state/reviewer. As far as intro to business goes, I wouldn't have to do any studying. It seems to be very basic material with a lot of it covering sole proprietorships, Partnership types, and corporations. I just finished my REG exam, so that stuff is still fresh. I'm thinking it wouldn't count as a duplicate course because I have never had a “general business” course (prefix GEB).

    Tough_Kitty, I may try contacting my state. I seem to have trouble getting responses though. I asked them about DSST exams recently and the person I was e-mailing had never even heard of them.

    #445256
    Anonymous
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    Lilla, I am talking about the DSST exam. However, I did not take the CLEP course for Intro to Management, I took Management Fundamentals as an undergrad student. It sounds like they are pretty lenient. I wonder if its dependent on the state/reviewer. As far as intro to business goes, I wouldn't have to do any studying. It seems to be very basic material with a lot of it covering sole proprietorships, Partnership types, and corporations. I just finished my REG exam, so that stuff is still fresh. I'm thinking it wouldn't count as a duplicate course because I have never had a “general business” course (prefix GEB).

    Tough_Kitty, I may try contacting my state. I seem to have trouble getting responses though. I asked them about DSST exams recently and the person I was e-mailing had never even heard of them.

    #445119
    tough_kitty
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    Hmm, I have never heard of them either, but it's his/her job to do the research! Maybe try calling someone else….or if they use the same email address, chances are somebody else will be on duty on a different day and they might be more helpful.

    FAR: 81 (May 2013)
    BEC: 81 (July 2013)
    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
    California CPA since 1/30/14

    #445258
    tough_kitty
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    Hmm, I have never heard of them either, but it's his/her job to do the research! Maybe try calling someone else….or if they use the same email address, chances are somebody else will be on duty on a different day and they might be more helpful.

    FAR: 81 (May 2013)
    BEC: 81 (July 2013)
    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
    California CPA since 1/30/14

    #445121
    Anonymous
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    benboy12, you can't send the DSST scores straight to the state board. You have to transfer them to a college and then the college sends the credit to the state boards. So, you need to check with your college to see if they'll give you credit for these exams, and if they will, then your state board will. The DSSTs are just an assessment that the American Council on Education (ACE) recommends giving credit for if it's over a certain score, but in and of themselves, they're not accredited courses. If your college won't give you credit for them, then you may find another college you can transfer them in to (I did my degree through Thomas Ediso nState College, tesc.edu and they'll take pretty much anything, but charge you about $600 to put it on a transcript if you're not a student).

    #445260
    Anonymous
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    benboy12, you can't send the DSST scores straight to the state board. You have to transfer them to a college and then the college sends the credit to the state boards. So, you need to check with your college to see if they'll give you credit for these exams, and if they will, then your state board will. The DSSTs are just an assessment that the American Council on Education (ACE) recommends giving credit for if it's over a certain score, but in and of themselves, they're not accredited courses. If your college won't give you credit for them, then you may find another college you can transfer them in to (I did my degree through Thomas Ediso nState College, tesc.edu and they'll take pretty much anything, but charge you about $600 to put it on a transcript if you're not a student).

    #445123
    Anonymous
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    My local community college does accept the exams for credit, so that isn't an issue.

    I may try calling/e-mailing tomorrow. If I don't get a clear response, then I am just going to go for it. I am hoping because I am not using these credits towards the Accounting & General Business requirements, they won't be as strict.

    #445262
    Anonymous
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    My local community college does accept the exams for credit, so that isn't an issue.

    I may try calling/e-mailing tomorrow. If I don't get a clear response, then I am just going to go for it. I am hoping because I am not using these credits towards the Accounting & General Business requirements, they won't be as strict.

    #445125
    tough_kitty
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    Well, if I think of it – as long as you earned the units, they should give you credit. Especially if the titles of courses are different. I don't think they spend time evaluating and comparing each course but it's just my guess. I may be wrong.

    FAR: 81 (May 2013)
    BEC: 81 (July 2013)
    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
    California CPA since 1/30/14

    #445264
    tough_kitty
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    Well, if I think of it – as long as you earned the units, they should give you credit. Especially if the titles of courses are different. I don't think they spend time evaluating and comparing each course but it's just my guess. I may be wrong.

    FAR: 81 (May 2013)
    BEC: 81 (July 2013)
    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
    California CPA since 1/30/14

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